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Brain cells in your heart...Remember that DC with them on stage??....

by oompa in

back in the 70's wt had this thingy going on where they thought the figurative heart may indeed be the literal heart....like it had cells in it that affected your thinking....esp on things of emotion...(i swear i am not makin this sheeite up)...i went to a district convention back then that had two six foot, thin paper boxes on stage, with lights inside.....on the outside of each box was a painting of a brain and a heart.......and when the person offstage was talking.....one of the boxes would light up.......like sometimes it was the brain talking.......sometimes it was the heart talking............but most of the time since i was a teen and the chicks were hot......my dick did all the talkin.............oompa.

sorry got off topic at the end....but anyone remember that dc or material?.

TooBad TooSad

Oompa,

Back in the 70's the elders were actually permitted to make up thier own public

talks as long as the Society's literature was used as the basis. I developed the

talk "Your heart is more than a pump."

I cited all of the Watchtowers data how the heart and brain are connected by

nerve tissue and all of the medical data where doctors have proof that when a

man received a womans heart that he would develope some female emotions.

I loved giving this talk and all of the congreagations that I gave the talk also liked

it because it was something different. I had congregations request this talk.

Then all of a suddend I get called into the back office at a circuit assembly and was

told that I need to stop giving this talk because now the Bible heart is figurative.

This was another flip flop. I still believe to this day that there are emotional

ties between the heart and mind. As proof, the Bible says to love God with your

whole soul, whole mind, whole heart. The soul is not figurative and the mind is

not figurative and the heart is not figurative. I could never understand what the

big deal was about the heart being figurative. Now when ever you see the word

heart in the Watchtower you see the word figurative in front of it. To this day

when elders talk about the heart they often touch their chest but why do that

if the Biblical heart is figurative?

TooBad TooSad

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What Was The Very First Thing That Came Across Your Eyes That Lead You Down The Road To Doubt?

by Yizuman in

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any of you remember what was exactly the first thing that crossed your eyeballs to lead you into doubting the wts?.

TooBad TooSad

Good Topic. There were many things that got me thinking rather than

checking in my brain at the Kingdom Hall door. It was death by a

thousand paper cuts.

Toobad Toosad

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Is Raffling Conscience or Disfellowshipping matter?

by asilentone in

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They will view it as a form of gambling. I don't think that a person

would be DF'd however it may result in a trip to the library woodshed

depending on your status and ranking at the KH.

Toobad Toosad

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I took the '1914 Generation' prophecy seriously, did you? Do you even remember it?!

by nicolaou in

i was born in 1964, 50 years after 1914. even in my teens i was doing the sums.

i had a worse case scenario figured out - if the 1914 generation could apply to babies and even if they lived to be a 120, i would still only be about 70 years old after they'd all died!

i figured i was part of the first wave of 'jehovah's people' that really would live to see the new order - guaranteed!!

TooBad TooSad

When I was an elder this was the main teaching that kept me going. I was not 100% sure about

staying alive till 75. After 1975 came and went I still had hope in the "this generation." In the late

1980's I started to fall mentally out of the truth and stepped down as an elder. When the generation

doctrine was dropped I was not surprised. What I was surprised is how easily it got changed during

the Watchtower study in 1995 without anyone even questioning it.

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THE ELDERS JUST KNOCKED ON MY DOOR

by Mary in

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i was asked what i thought when i saw all the bad things going on in the world and about how close we are to the end.

i replied "jeff, i simply do not believe that it's going to happen in my life time.

" he was momentarily stunned and said "well, when have things ever been this bad before?

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Nice job Mary. It sure feels good to know the truth about the "truth."

TooBad TooSad

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Question Box in new May KM...more spin of things to come

by TooBad TooSad in

i have a scan of the question box but i can't figure out how to upload it so i. will just type it out.

i can guarantee you that only we who post on this web.

by jehovah's witnesses have different logos.. congregations or individuals should not use logos or names of the organization's legal.

TooBad TooSad

I have a scan of the question box but I can't figure out how to upload it so I

will just type it out. I can guarantee you that only we who post on this web

site know what is going on in the question box and what the reasoning is.

The publishers won't give it a second thought.

Here it is:

"Is it appropriate for congregations or individuals to use the logos of legal

corporations used by Jehovah's Witnesses?

A logo is a name, symbol, or trademark designed for easy and definite recognition.

The Watch Tower logo is representative of the Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania

and other corporations used by the organization. The Christian Congregation of

Jehovah's Witnesses uses an open Bible in its letterhead. Other corporations used

by Jehovah's Witnesses have different logos.

Congregations or individuals should not use logos or names of the organization's legal

entities, or variations there of, on their Kingdom Halls, signs, letterhead, personal objects,

and so forth. Such use of the organization's logos may cause confusion for public

officials, publishers, and others about the legal affiliatiion of the congregation with the

organization's legal entities. Similarly, written correspondence could be misinterpreted as being

approved or sent from the world headquarters or the branch office.

The Watch Tower logo, or variation of it, should not be used in future Kingdom Hall projects

even if the Kingdom Hall is owned by the Watchtower entity."

There is another couple of paragraphs about if a KH has the logos that it would be good to

eliminate it if the costs are not too expensive. If it is expensive then just to wait until the

next remodel or renovation. I love the statement that we don't want to confuse the publishers

in thinking that somehow there is some legal tie between the two even if the WTBTS owns

the property.

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I wonder why all of a sudden the WTBTS wants to distance itself from the local congreations

and why worry if public officials may link the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses with the Watch Tower

Bible and Tract Society if the Watchowe Society logos are used?

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I am so sick of hearing the word "soon."

by TooBad TooSad in

the use of the word "soon" at the kh is used so much by jw's.

that it has almost turned into a "soon" doctrine.. i counted the word soon 15 times at the meeting yesterday during the.

public talk and wt.

TooBad TooSad

The use of the word "soon" at the KH is used so much by JW's

that it has almost turned into a "soon" doctrine.

I counted the word soon 15 times at the meeting yesterday during the

public talk and WT. They can't stop using the word soon. Their whole

life is built around the word soon. Soon there will be not war or food

shortages. Soon we will grow young not old. Soon God will act and

destroy the wicked. Soon we will be in Paradise. Soon we will not have

to worry about sickness or disease. Soon God will cleanse the earth.

How soon is soon? If I tell my wife that I am going to buy her a new

diamond ring soon, would she be happy if I waited 6 months, a year,

or 35 years? If I tell my little grandson that I will take him to the zoo soon

does he think in terms of days, months, or years? If your doctor tells you

that you need to make another appointment to see him soon, do you wait

a week, month, or several years?

If the JW's did not talk about the end being soon they would have nothing

else to talk about. The talk two Sundays ago was about the need of staying

clean and the need to wash our hands after using the toilet and keeping our

clothes clean. Oh God, I wish that all of this would end soon.

TooBad TooSad

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I Keeping Thinking of the Pictures of Paradise

by TooBad TooSad in

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i remember one picture of a pretty little girl holding a plastic bucket in paradise next to a tame lion.. i asked my wife if there is going to be polution in paradise?

of course the answer is no!!!!!.

to make this bucket you will need plastic.

TooBad TooSad

I remember one picture of a pretty little girl holding a plastic bucket in paradise next to a tame lion.

I asked my wife if there is going to be polution in paradise? Of course the answer is no!!!!!.

I asked her where did the plastic bucket come from? To make this bucket you will need plastic

injection molding machines. The cast iron castings that make these molds can weigh up to 3,000#.

Which means that you will need foundries to make the molds which means that we will need pig iron,

manganese, iron ore, magnesium, silicon and sand. Who is going to dig up the paradise earth to get

all of this stuff out of the ground? Who is going to make the earth moving equipment to dig these minerals

out of the ground? Who is going to process the ores to get the final elements foundries need to make the castings

that will be machined to make the molds to make the plastic bucket? Who is going to make all of the machines

that do the machining? How are we going to transport the 3,000# castings to get them to the machine shops?

Will there we trucks and roads? Who is going to maintain the roads? Who is going to make the road paving

equipment? I doubt if elephants will just use their trucks to pick up the castings. Then we have the problem of

what are we going to use for power to melt the castings for the molds and to machine the molds for the buckets?

Are we going to have electricty or oil? Will there be oil refineries or coal fired electrical generators. Who is going to

drill for the oil or mine the coal not to mention who is going make all of the eqiupment to do this. The picture I just

painted sounds like what we have now. Maybe we are in paradise. Mayabe it will just be easier if we don't

have plastic buckets in paradise. The final answer my wife gave me of where did the plastic bucket come from

was "maybe Jehovah will just snap his fingers and it will be there." Now you can see why you can not reason with

witnesses. They have a fairytail dream. I also wanted to know why doesn't the Watchtower show the inside of

the beautiful houses in paradise ? Maybe because there won't be refigerator's, stoves, or running water without

the old fashion hand pumps with outhouses behing the house. I hope that I won't get stuck with the job of picking

up all of the lion and elelphant crap in the neighbor hood. I wish that God would hurry up and kill 99.9% of mankind

so that I can see how that plastic bucket gets made.

TooBad TooSad

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Hello! I am no longer a Lurker!

by VIII in

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i have been reading the board for months and have been waiting to join!

thanks for allowing new members.

i was a jw.

TooBad TooSad

Wecome aboard to the board where you will not get bored.

TooBad TooSad

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Not a Lurker anymore!!!!!

by Ohio Nana in

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i have been reading your posts the last couple of weeks and wanted to post and talk to all of you and at last i can.. first i am (or was)a unbaptised publisher but have jw daughter (really into it)and jw granddaughters and df son in law(for smoking).. i studied for 2 yrs and tried field service(hated hated hated it).anyway reading your posts helped me to make the decison that.

i just couldn't go on going to meetings even to be with my grandchildren(who i love dearly)and living a lie.

i believe jw's are a cult and the.

TooBad TooSad

Hello and welcome aboard. It is better to see the light early than to see

the light later and stay in the dark.

TooBad TooSad